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So I hope this proves useful, esp. with respect to making sourcing the progress even easier. I think I'll do the same for other common outlets. Note that this doesn't help so much with stuff from the loper archives, or pre-MG ownership, but that could be accounted for eventually if desired. -- [[User:B.S. Lawrence|B.S. Lawrence]] 20:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
So I hope this proves useful, esp. with respect to making sourcing the progress even easier. I think I'll do the same for other common outlets. Note that this doesn't help so much with stuff from the loper archives, or pre-MG ownership, but that could be accounted for eventually if desired. -- [[User:B.S. Lawrence|B.S. Lawrence]] 20:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
== cite template vs. easybib ==
Here's where I see the advantages of this template vs. easybib. Compare these two examples:
'''Easybib:''' McKenzie, Bryan. "Real Estate Firms Deal with National Company to Focus on Technology, Social Media to Sell Houses | Charlottesville Daily Progress." Charlottesville News, Sports, Business, Events and Jobs | Charlottesville Daily Progress. 8 Apr. 2010. Web. 09 Apr. 2010. <http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/real_estate_firms_deal_with_national_company_to_focus_on_technology_social_/54632/>.
'''Template:''' {{cite-progress|author=McKenzie, Bryan|title=Real Estate Firms Deal with National Company to Focus on Technology, Social Media to Sell Houses|publishdate=8 Apr. 2010|accessdate=09 Apr. 2010|url=http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/real_estate_firms_deal_with_national_company_to_focus_on_technology_social_/54632/}}.
#Attractiveness. Easybib includes a bunch of the Progress' marketing: the " Charlottesville News, Sports, Business, Events and Jobs " is pure flack and irrelevant to the citation. The braces on the url are gnarly. The url and the title are divorced, rather than cleanly integrated. Template output is smaller and conveys no less information.
#Missing information. Easybib leaves out the publisher.
#Print citations. The progress has already deleted its online archive once. Print citations are permanent. This template at least makes you think about including those.
#It's a template. Need to tweak something? Fix the template. Need to easily find all the progress citations? Search for the template. Want to encourage people to explore the more esoteric parts of a wiki? This can't hurt.
Nothing above should be taken as an indictment of easybib, nor does it intend a rigid style for citations. It's opinion. But I figure it's worth making the case so that future users can decide for themselves. -- [[User:B.S. Lawrence|B.S. Lawrence]] 00:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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applicability

So I hope this proves useful, esp. with respect to making sourcing the progress even easier. I think I'll do the same for other common outlets. Note that this doesn't help so much with stuff from the loper archives, or pre-MG ownership, but that could be accounted for eventually if desired. -- B.S. Lawrence 20:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

cite template vs. easybib

Here's where I see the advantages of this template vs. easybib. Compare these two examples:

Easybib: McKenzie, Bryan. "Real Estate Firms Deal with National Company to Focus on Technology, Social Media to Sell Houses | Charlottesville Daily Progress." Charlottesville News, Sports, Business, Events and Jobs | Charlottesville Daily Progress. 8 Apr. 2010. Web. 09 Apr. 2010. <http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/real_estate_firms_deal_with_national_company_to_focus_on_technology_social_/54632/>.

Template: Web. Real Estate Firms Deal with National Company to Focus on Technology, Social Media to Sell Houses, McKenzie, Bryan, Daily Progress, Lee Enterprises, 8 Apr. 2010, retrieved 09 Apr. 2010..

  1. Attractiveness. Easybib includes a bunch of the Progress' marketing: the " Charlottesville News, Sports, Business, Events and Jobs " is pure flack and irrelevant to the citation. The braces on the url are gnarly. The url and the title are divorced, rather than cleanly integrated. Template output is smaller and conveys no less information.
  2. Missing information. Easybib leaves out the publisher.
  3. Print citations. The progress has already deleted its online archive once. Print citations are permanent. This template at least makes you think about including those.
  4. It's a template. Need to tweak something? Fix the template. Need to easily find all the progress citations? Search for the template. Want to encourage people to explore the more esoteric parts of a wiki? This can't hurt.

Nothing above should be taken as an indictment of easybib, nor does it intend a rigid style for citations. It's opinion. But I figure it's worth making the case so that future users can decide for themselves. -- B.S. Lawrence 00:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)